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NORMAL TIMESCALE FOR FOSTERING A BIRD
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Ann Conway
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13-04-2011 8:42 AM

    Birds are on the rehoming list for approximately a month. This gives ALL  members a fair chance to apply.  A bird may have 20 applications for it, and each applicant has to be contacted INDIVIDUALLY, which also takes time, as some people may be at work or out at the time of the call, and the rehoming officers have to call back  another time.

    The rehoming Officers are also managers and aco's,  and as such  have also  to deal with everything else entailed in the day to day running of the rescue.

    Collecting birds, doing homechecks/ safehouse checks,  vet visits, paperwork and  computer work, emailing, as well as looking after their own birds, not to mention their spouses and families who are usually at the bottom of this  list.

    ALL OF  THIS IS  DONE ON A PURELY  VOLUNTARY BASIS.

    We have to have a life of our own at some point !!!

    IT IS NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE TO WAIT A WHILE AFTER YOU HAVE HAD A PHONE CALL TO DISCUSS YOUR APPLICATION, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN THE FIRST PERSON OUT OF A LONG LIST OF MEMBERS TO BE SPOKEN TO.

    YOU WILL BE CONTACTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE !!!!

    Please show a bit more  patience. We do understand your excitement, but are already doing the best that can be done.

     

     

     

     

     

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    13-04-2011 9:07 AM
    Could this be a sticky post, or in the top part of the forum as we have lots of new people at the moment (and hopefully will have lots more as time goes on) who are understandably keen but may not be aware of the process. This needs to be kept prominent so hopefully everyone sees it and understands what might be happening in the background. Lots of applications are an indication that the organisation is working, but a mixed blessing for the rehoming team!
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    13-04-2011 9:36 AM
    When applications are received are they 'acknowledged' (I believe they are)? I haven't actually seen the email that goes to the applicant when they apply. Does that acknowledgement have something in it to explain the potential timescales involved? It may just stop people fretting after a few days (or even weeks), as Ann says rehoming a bird with many applications does take time....longer than most people think.

    The rehoming team are also slowed down by having to deal with 'enquiries' from applicants wanting to know the status of their application or by members not having read the guidelines and applying for more than one bird at a time or for birds that have red writing on them...etc.... The more time spent on things like that means less time is spent doing the all important phone calls.
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    13-04-2011 9:51 AM

    Deb that is very good idea about adding acknowledgement for application etc if it doesnt happen already.  I have nothing but admiration as I have said before for the rehoming team.  The rehoming lists have been so huge recently that the pressure on everyone involved shouldn't be under played on time/effort involved.  You are all doing a great job. 

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    13-04-2011 10:18 AM

     Hi All

    I recently  applied to rehoming and an aknowedgement isn't sent out. I waited a few weeks and then chased my application.

    I did suggest an automated reply that would aknowledge receipt and give an idea of expectations. That way people are kept informed.

    If someone knows to wait 6 weeks then I believe they will - but it is the not knowing that frustrates people and so they start to chase.

    A simple email explaining the next stages of the process and the expected timescales would , I'm sure, alleviate the the issue and give the rehoming team more time.

    Di

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    13-04-2011 12:05 PM
    ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS ARE AUTOMATIC.
    How long ago was your recent application???
    We did have a short spell a while ago when the website was experiencing some problems, but in the NORMAL l run of things you DO get an acknowledgement.
    It may take a while after that before you get a phone call from the rehoming team.
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    13-04-2011 12:25 PM
    To my knowledge, an e-mail is recieved to say we have recieved your application.

    As ann says sometimes they can be may applications for a bird and ALL have to be contacted, this does sometimes take time.....but please be assured we WILL get to you and you will recieve a phone call if you are short listered for that bird......you will also recieve an e-mail if you were unsucessful on that occation, some birds take longer than others so we can not give a time scale for this but will will let you know either way
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    13-04-2011 12:27 PM

    Yes Ann I was under the impression that there was an acknowledgement ....LOL

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    13-04-2011 12:31 PM
    If you are the first call on the list then there will be a shorter wait from the time you apply until the time of phonecall, however you may then have a longer wait to find out the outcome as ALL the other applicants have to be called first.

    If you are last on the list to be called then you will have a longer wait from the time you apply until the time of phonecall, however you will have a shorter wait for the outcome.

    Either way patience is a virtue...LOL
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    14-04-2011 1:53 PM
    Hi

    Hope this helps - actual copy of the email in question.

    Dear BL Member (name)

    Our thanks for submitting your re-homing application. The application has been received by our re-homing team and will be processed as soon as possible.

    Please be aware that the re-homing process is a long one. All applicants must be contacted and their applications discussed. We ask that you kindly be patient when waiting your response.

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    14-04-2011 1:55 PM
    Thanks for that Norm

    So applications are acknowledged and patience is requested, It seems that the excitement is just too much for some people to bear...LOL
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    09-03-2012 2:05 PM

     Nice to see the above post.  I applied, seems like ages ago, an d although I have had one phone call, nothing else seemed to happen, so it is good to know that this is 'normal'.  I am scared that if I am picked to be the adoptive parent of the bird I am interested in, that it will want to happen around the time I am going on holiday.  Just hoping that things will happen soon as am off on holiday in June and would hate it to clash with a new arrival.

     

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    09-03-2012 2:17 PM
    Don't worry, if the perfect match has been made, then the Rehoming team will keep calling..and calling..and calling.. and callin
    g.. and...
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    09-03-2012 3:04 PM
    And, if you are selected and successful just before your holiday, either the bird can stay in his/her safehouse a bit longer or you can arrange for a local BL member to look after your precious birdie
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    13-08-2012 6:22 AM
    Hi At 65 and now retired is there any point in me applying to offer a home for a bird, My experience was taking on a bald African Grey "Becky" whose feathers all returned apart from a small patch on side. I had her company for twenty-seven years. I am saying her "she could have been an" " he" My partner still works another ten years at least, I am at home all day, we have two dogs one of which is a german shepard rather old, the other a five year old rescued Lab-doodle a gentle giant who gets on with any animal even cats, possibly because he is to lazy to bother!
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    13-08-2012 6:46 AM
    Keith, you sound like you would be a valuable asset to the BL team and age is definitely no barrier, in fact, as you are home more often thsn not, its an absolute advantage!!

    Membership is £25 per year which is an annual family membership and you must remain a member whilst you are fostering a BL baby. You might also consider safehousing which is where you take a bird in to assess its personality etc before they go on the rehoming list. Itenables you to get lots of experience of different species.

    Go on give it a go, you'll love it!!

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    13-08-2012 7:39 AM
    Keith - Age is definitely not a barrier to fostering / safehousing a bird. I actually have a bird here that is needing a home where the man would be the main carer and where he is home much of the time, a semi active retired person would be ideal as she is no spring chicken herself. A home with no kids, and whilst a woman would be 'allowed' she wouldn't be able to touch the bird. You would sound ideal (if it were not for the dogs - as she is a floor walker and can not fly).... the point I am trying to make (rather badly) is there is usually a bird to suit most circumstances but sometimes it is just a waiting game.

    Where abouts are you?
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    01-10-2012 6:53 AM
    I joined Birdline after seeing parrots at Truckfest stand for Birdline. I applied for a bird, but heard nothing, as my wife at home all day thought we would be ideal, also we had an African Grey for 16 years previously. So hearing nothing I went out and bought a 2yr old African Grey from Gumtree, and "Indy" has now settled in very happily. Person wanted rid off him urgently as had other pets, so in a way I "rescued" him. While I understand you are doing what is right for the birds, I feel there is an awful lot of red tape, "faffing about" when people decide they want a bird, they want it now, not weeks or months down the line. Wasn't too happy about someone visiting every 6 months to check on birds well being either, so decided to pay for our own bird, which is a source of great enjoyment to my wife as she is housebound much of the time. Needless to say I won't be applying for any more, nor renewing my subscription.
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    01-10-2012 7:34 AM
    I would like to comment on the above post by Euan (I have not had a particularly good day so I am sorry if this sounds harsh). I am not sitting in judgement of Euan and whilst I am very happy that he has a bird and all seems to be happy in the Walker household I would just like to make some general comments regarding the points he has raised.

    1. Everyone here is a volunteer and has to fit their Birdline duties around other things (work, family, their own birds...etc)
    2. There is a lot of red tape and this is there for a reason - it is to ensure that the birds that are often donated to us after an agonising decision by their owners are well cared for and placed in the best possible home and with as litle upset as possible. It also means their care is as guaranteed for the rest of their lives and we keep the promise we make to the donor. It means that birds coming into BL are not illtreated or 'lost' in the system.
    3. Regarding a 6 monthly visit to check on the birds well being - Why would you not want to know that there was help and support for you and your bird? Surely if you were a donor of a bird this would make your decision easier - knowing that regular checks are made?
    4. Your comment - "when people decide they want a bird, they want it now, not weeks or months down the line" Is precisely why we have a lot of birds handed in. People get birds on a whim (often) and then later down the line decide it wasn't such a good idea. I am a rehoming officer and the amount of times I call someone about their application and they withdraw it as they have 'changed their mind' (often in the space of 2 weeks!) is alarmingly high!
    5. I can not help but add that (whilst you are possibly a very loving knowledgable family regarding birds and their needs) the fact that you have had a bird for 16 years doesn't automatically mean that you were doing a good job of caring for it. I have had a bird donated in the past that was kept by the same family for 23 years - it was fed soley on sunflower seeds and monkey nuts, it was kept in a cage that was far too small, its beak and nails were overgrown and it had never been let out of the cage. That family could boast 23 years of bird keeping experience but I would never rehome a bird there! (Again I reiterate that I know nothing of you so am not judging you).

    Euan - You have been a member less than 2 months and I think if you had availed yourself of all the info on this site about the rehoming process before applying you would have known that it isn't always a quick process - but it is a thorough one. Everything is done for the birds benefit and this is the way it should be. In my mind. I know people get excited about the prospect of fostering a bird but patience is a virtue and members need to think of the birds needs before theiir own.

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    01-10-2012 8:12 AM
    Sometimes, when things are done too quickly, there are mistakes made. Sometimes circumstances change in people's lives. We take time to assess our birds (and the Fosterers) and try to place them with people who will be compatible to the bird's needs.The on-going visits are to check that both bird and Fosterer are happy, that seems logical to me. I explained all this to Euan when he called the Helpline some time back. I completely aggree with Debs and her comments. I have not had a bad day, and if I sound harsh, then maybe I'm not a nice person. It doesn't matter. People are important, but in the Parrot Rescue world, BIRDS MUST COME FIRST, so sorry, Euan, if that sounds nasty. I sincerely hope you and your bird will be happy for many, many years. However, if you'd waited, you might have been more sure that the bird won't take a dislike to you (or your wife) and will fit in to be part of your family.
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    01-10-2012 9:14 AM

    Well said Debbie.

     

     







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    01-10-2012 10:16 AM
    At the risk of causing offence, Euan, .....................................................mmm on second thoughts best I not post what I'm thinking but to those of you that know me, fill in the blanks!
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    02-10-2012 4:45 AM
    I am hoping to foster a bird or become a safehouse but I will be guided by BL as to what is most appropriate based on my level of knowledge and experience. I would NEVER buy a bird off Gumtree or a similar site because by encouraging the unregulated trade in these exceptional creatures you have just become part of the problem.

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    02-10-2012 6:26 AM
    Posted By littleowl on 02-10-2012 04:45 AM
    I am hoping to foster a bird or become a safehouse but I will be guided by BL as to what is most appropriate based on my level of knowledge and experience. I would NEVER buy a bird off Gumtree or a similar site because by encouraging the unregulated trade in these exceptional creatures you have just become part of the problem.

    Louise

    I am sure some lucky ACO will be very happy to have you onboard (as a SH or fosterer- or both!!)

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    02-10-2012 6:55 AM
    Fingers crossed littleowl. : ) It's a great place to be, some peoples priorities are bound by priorities that go no further than self, and by goading the goodness of others get what they think they want.
    I haven't been here long and i safe house, it's rewarding of that there is no doubt, and yes it does mean waiting as the reasons so apptly put above say, but BL are safeguarding the birds future and supporting carers, so that both bird and human have the best outcome and experience.
    Some people like Euen want to shine and be noticed through their work - others let their work shine and be noticed through them. Keep BL twinkling! ....... (sorry if that's been abit 'gushy' ....lol). Sallyann

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    05-10-2012 6:03 PM
    Thanks Sallyann!

    I have my home check arranged for monday. Given that BL is run by volunteers I'm really impressed by how quickly my ACO got in touch.
    V. excited now :-)
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    06-10-2012 1:08 AM
    I've just read euans post to my OH. Hoping not to cause offence but that screams out childish behaviour! You decide you want something and you want it NOW!!! I think for everyone's best interest the process on BL is "slow" rescued birds are rescued/rehomed for various reasons.

    The two foster birds I have are frankly hard work when they want to be, they scream ( as amazons do) and can be relentless. I have been working hard with them as they are hormonal and acting like a pair of stroppy teenagers. But they are coming round and both had lots of tickles this morning.

    Rescued animals aren't the fairy tale people think, giving a home to a grateful unwanted animal, my amazon I had previously was given to me after the previous owner kept for 30 years, he was mentally damaged 30 years of not being cared for, living in a heavy smoking environment.

    It does make me wonder how prepared and tolerant you would be in a similar situation where a bird isn't the loving easy-going bird you require.

    Good luck with your new addition I sincerely hope everyone is happy for years to come

    (Sorry for the waffley post)
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    06-10-2012 2:37 AM
    Gushy, waffley, forthright! what an articulate lot we are .....lol.

    My safe house bird went up on the re-homing site a couple of days ago, she's been my first s/h bird and it's mixed feelings, but i'm trying not to keep level headed
    about her moving on. : ?
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    06-10-2012 2:39 AM
    opps! that should be trying to keep level headed ..... doh!
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    10-10-2012 4:46 AM
    So Euan won't be renewing his subscription because he did not get a bird in less than 2 months? I think this sums up his motives for joining in the first place. Also, he was not comfortable with the paperwork and subsequent checks? Why is the concept of Birldline so hard to grasp for some people?

    P.S. I applied for a bird in July...where the hell is it? I want it and I want it NOW! *stamps feet*

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    10-10-2012 11:31 AM
    Posted By Neil on 10-10-2012 04:46 AM

    P.S. I applied for a bird in July...where the hell is it? I want it and I want it NOW! *stamps feet*


    Neil, you know that sort of behaviour gets you put on the naughty step!
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    Posted By Helen W on 10-10-2012 11:31 AM
    Neil, you know that sort of behaviour gets you put on the naughty step! <img alt="" src="http://www.parrot-rescue.org.uk/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/blue/emoticons/hehe.gif" />


    Now how many minutes would that be???
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    13-10-2012 4:51 PM
    Posted By Helen W on 10-10-2012 11:31 AM
    Posted By Neil on 10-10-2012 04:46 AM

    P.S. I applied for a bird in July...where the hell is it? I want it and I want it NOW! *stamps feet*


    Neil, you know that sort of behaviour gets you put on the naughty step!

    I promise to be good from now on.
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    16-10-2012 1:37 AM

    i agree with di. i don't mind waiting if i was getting regular updates. 

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    16-10-2012 8:39 AM
    If applicants have read the rehoming information and have looked for advice on the forum then they should know it isn't always a quick process but it is a very thorough one. As I understand it the application is acknowledged and you do know you WILL be contacted so it is just a case of being patient.

    If a member of the rehoming team is keeping all applicants informed as to expected time scales or delays or progress then they are not making the all important 'interviews' that will actually get the bird into it's forever home.
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    16-10-2012 9:42 AM
    i think this guy thinks this is like a retailer. you get what you want when you pay for it.  that or his intentions were not what bl wants from the foster homes.
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    18-10-2012 3:06 AM
    hi there this is the first forum posting from me so be gentle plz....hi all i'm Steve nice to meet yeh all, i have just read the posting by euan and i really am shocked i think. honestly i don't know how to feel. if anything euan should be so humble to be thought of by BL, the reason i say this is that these birds are put here for our pleasure and i bet he didn't take the first women he met for his loving wife. i bet he took his time and waited for things to be right. even then he had to wait to wed the lucky lady !!!! i'm sorry if i'm out of order being a new be and that. i'm sorry. i do not care weather i get a bird or not, i'm here if and when one or more needs my help. i would not want to wish anything bad to happen to another bird, just to satisfy my want to having another bird. like everything else in the world it all takes time. SO other matters if i can be of any help to anyone please just mail me, if i can help I WILL no time limit. sorry i don't have babble on when i get started......heeeeheeee

    i'm in Aberdeen area

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    18-10-2012 6:03 AM
    Like Braveheart I’m also a “newbie”. Why did I join BL? Well first off, the lady of the household has wanted a talking bird to interact with for a good few years. Having costed out the financial side (food, cage fittings, consumables and vets fees) we finally made the decision to get a bird a couple of weeks ago. We paid a trip to our local pet shop… but weren’t impressed! My next stop was the internet and as a result of that search I discovered BL, what their aims were and how they operated. All our pets have always been rescue as we believe in that ethos, (actually I tell a lie, our tropical fish did come from a shop).
    I realised early on that if I wanted to be part of the fostering process I would have to become a member; and having spotted a bird we both particularly liked I duly joined and then made an application. I did get an acknowledgement and in a remarkably quick time an e-mail from the local ACO.
    We read the information on fostering and realised it could be a lengthy process, also the costs and the on-going responsibilities. We welcome the fact that we will be visited regularly as, having never owned a bird before, my only other source of advice would be my son-in-law who does have past experience and it will be much better to have an independent expert to advise us.
    So we wait patiently and hope we will be successful. If it’s worth having it’s worth waiting for.
    Sorry if the post is a bit long!
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    18-10-2012 7:07 AM
    Welcome Braveheart and patriceandrobin.
    Its great hear from people who have actually bothered to read and digested the information thats available on here.
    I only wish more people would do the same.
    We experience many calls and emails from those who havent, and although they dont post their gripes on here, we spend hours and hours explaining the procedures that must be followed, and which do take some time.
    So well done to you.
    Hope you enjoy being a part of Birdline.


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    18-10-2012 11:04 AM
    As Ann says, welcome both of you and we hope that you enjoy being part of our happy flock.
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    31-10-2012 3:25 AM

    i agree with previous comments regarding being kept informed. it has been many weeks since i applied, had a home visit first by ACO then manager, added a nest box for shelter and of course paid my joining fee and cost of home visit. i have sent two emails for progress and heard nothing. i appreciate that this is run by volunteers and they deserve all credit for that. but all i ask is that people keep me in the loop, even if only to say that a companion for my aviary bird is not yet available. 

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    31-10-2012 5:11 AM
    Hi Kegsky,
    Can you tell who you you sent your email to and I will try to find out what is happening.
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    05-11-2012 6:25 AM
    I have to say as a new member I have applied for two birds and in both instances knowing that everyone is volunteers I am impressed with all at birdline, they have contacted me and let me know throughout the process, with regard to not being successful, down to two lovely ladies who came to my house for a home check with BIG BIRD, whom everyone fell in love with. I don't know if I am successful in my second application, but I do know that each bird will never go to anyone who won't love care and pamper it ..... so be ware prospective adoptive parents, these birds need love care and attention and birdline (volunteers out of love for birds) will make sure that each individual bird is paired with the perfect person/family, and if this means waiting sorry they are worth it ... good luck to all potential adoptive parents please give birdline a chance they only want whats best for the bird and they all donate their spare time to make sure each bird gets a happy and loving home xxxxxxxxxx (JULEZ) hopefully a potential mum xxxxxxxxxx
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    Hi all. I don't want to speak out of turn or offend anyone but I can see why this does become a contentious issue. Balancing the volunteer’s time, the well being of the birds and the need for information from would-be fosterers can't be easy. But at least everyone agrees the birds most come first.
    Being in the fostering position waiting for information can be frustrating (I know as someone currently waiting). It takes a long time but fosterers don't see example times of what to expect. This must vary hugely from bird to bird depending upon the birds needs, number of applications, and volunteer support in that area so difficult to say but if a ball park figure of 6 , 8, 12 weeks whatever the typical figure is was shared, would that not prevent premature enquires for information updates?
    Maybe this is too simplistic and sorry if this takes up more volunteers time answering yet more questions on this sensitive subject. But for all those vounteers your help is appreciated (even if I'm unsuccesful i gained a lot of useful information regarding keeping my current bird in good health, during the telephone interview)
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    Posted By julez65 on 05-11-2012 06:25 AM
    I have to say as a new member I have applied for two birds and in both instances knowing that everyone is volunteers I am impressed with all at birdline, they have contacted me and let me know throughout the process, with regard to not being successful, down to two lovely ladies who came to my house for a home check with BIG BIRD, whom everyone fell in love with. I don't know if I am successful in my second application, but I do know that each bird will never go to anyone who won't love care and pamper it ..... so be ware prospective adoptive parents, these birds need love care and attention and birdline (volunteers out of love for birds) will make sure that each individual bird is paired with the perfect person/family, and if this means waiting sorry they are worth it ... good luck to all potential adoptive parents please give birdline a chance they only want whats best for the bird and they all donate their spare time to make sure each bird gets a happy and loving home xxxxxxxxxx (JULEZ) hopefully a potential mum xxxxxxxxxx

    Hi Julez,

    was lovely to meet you and the rest of family and fingers crossed for your application

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    I applied to rehome a bird from the recent list and as far as I can see I haven't had an acknowledgement email. Just got out of hospital and my brain is a little muddled but I can't find an email. No pressure just wonder if my application has been received … did I press send or cancel?? Lol the joys of being a woman of a certain age!!! Dell x
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    Posted By Adelle on 16-11-2012 12:59 PM
    I applied to rehome a bird from the recent list and as far as I can see I haven't had an acknowledgement email. Just got out of hospital and my brain is a little muddled but I can't find an email. No pressure just wonder if my application has been received … did I press send or cancel?? Lol the joys of being a woman of a certain age!!! Dell x


    Adelle - YOur application has been received
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    Lol thanks Debs I'm not going mental then!!
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    Oh wow this process takes ages - i appreciate that there is a lot of necessary procedures to the process but an update would be good
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    Helen - I know who you have applied for and your application has been received. Your chosen bird(s) has only been on the list since the end of October and no applicants are contacted within the first 2 weeks so ALL members get an equal chance to see and apply for birds.

    The rehoming officer who will deal with your application is extremely busy as she has many 'roles' within BL as well as a full time job and a family and birds to care for. All applicants are contacted by phone and this in itself is time consuming - you will hear in the quickest time it is possible for her to make all her calls.
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    For those of you who are waiting, hoping, to hear good news about Fostering the bird you've applied for - think about this logically. Each member of the Rehoming Team is allocated more than one bird. Each bird has (hopefully) more than one applicant. Each applicant has to be contacted, which can take huge amounts of time when applicants are sometimes not available/on holiday/changed their minds/at work/out visiting/etc. Some of the Rehoming Team work a full time job, so have limited time to call. Some applicants work too, and also have limited time. Put all this together, and does it not become obvious that if Rehoming is to be done properly, with due care and attention, it MUST take time. If it's done too quickly, there's a big chance that the bird will come back in because it's been allocated to the wrong place. What's wrong with a little patience, to make sure that the Fostering is successful?? We offer the owners of the birds in our care a service that puts their minds at rest - if it was YOUR bird being put somewhere, wouldn't you want the very best possible place for it?
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    Well said Doddie and all so true. Rehoming can be a time consuming job if done correctly. The rehoming team can,and often do, have 4 or more birds they are working to rehome at a time.Not so bad if there are only 1or2applicants but some birds can have alot of applicants. Please be patient as even an email or call to update takes time away from re homing calls. You won't be forgotten and you wil get a call or email. I know the waiting is hard when all you want to do is help re home a bird but the team do all work hard in the time they have as volunteers.
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    I have recently become and member and have also recently applied iv heard nothing
    I could get mad and moan but I won't because I appreciate that this is run by kind hearted people giving there spare time which may be very little doing the best they can for these birds and I'm grateful for that as for it taking ages don't get me wrong IDE love to have my chosen baby now of course I would but I appreciate the fact that the bird I have chosen to try and foster may or may not end up with me if he doesn't then I know he's gone somewhere that for whatever reason may be able to be a more sites forever home and for this I'm grateful because i know that the birds come first and of that takes longer it takes longer and that's that.
    I feel to many people apply to rescue because of the cost and that is totally the wrong attitude to have and wrong approach z
    As said above people change there minds!
    I rescued an African grey who the people had owned from a baby for. 6 years that bird had after a few months been relegated to a lean to because of noise and never let out his cage he was aggressive frightened temperamental and to be honest the poor thing was a nightmare through no fault of his own with time and patience we sorted him out over 3 years , he was an impulse buy!
    Unlike buying any animal is wrong and it happens far to often!
    People have no clue what care goes into these birds or the time mess noise involved and want a funny talking pet not so funny when they're eating your dining room and screaming you out of house and home!
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    Hi there, I applied to rehome a bird before Christmas and you do get a reply acknowledging the Application. I think you all do a sterling job given the amount of time and paperwork needed - I know because I fostered a couple of  Hahns two years ago and have the folder with all the info which came with the birds.  It takes time, patience and lot of hard work.  Of course it's exciting to put in a Application and hard to sit still and wait LOL, but you are contacted about the bird in time.

     

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    Hi,

     

    We have had our home visit, and confirmation that we have been succesful, However, we have not been contacted about collecting the brids/next steps etc. 

     

    However, in defence of birdline, everyone has been mor ethan friendly and professional. The home visit was very informative, and yes the process is long, however, it is obvious that it is the best interests of the bird and that it takes time as ACO's/birdline reps are doing this in addition to their own work and commitments. If anything they should be praised for the work they do.

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    I suspect the reason for the delay Shane is that the foster agreements are being rewritten, to bring them up to date.

    Congratulations on your sccessful application and thank you for your kind comments.
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    Congrats Shane

    I go with what Sharon said - the paperwork is rewritten and took a while...wont be long now I guess..fingers crossed for you x

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    Hello and congratulations.  I'm sure you are wishing time away so that your new addition can be collected.  Hope it isnt too long a wait for you.
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    Thanks for the info.

    Yes, very excited, got their new toys (as its two bird which have lived together all their lives - 10/8 years old), cage and everything ready. We have been telling our existing CAG that he is going to have two playmates (obviously after the quarantine period).

    The reason I was wondering is that I am in the area in which the birds are in on Thursday daytime visiting friends. However, it's only an hour and a half dribve away so can go anytime really...


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    Oh and plus, we've just bought an new UV Avian light 9Zoo Med) from Scarlett's and Charley is loving it, so we figured the new birds can make use of it too.
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    I'd say it' worth a message to the relevant ACO/Manager then to see if the move can be facilitated, after all, a space in a safehouse is a valuable thing at the moment.
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    Thanks Sharon.
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    Hi Keith,

    Hubby is 53 and only just responsible enough to be allowed his first big boy bird, I bought him a Blue and Gold Macaw for my retirement !!

    My Mum is 73 and my Mother in law is 87 and still more active than me, I am retired on disability ground at 46, so please do not write yourself off, knowledge and experience and the fact that you obviously love birds is paramount, you should go for it, you could have ages together yet.

    If you are refused on the grounds of age it would be very sad and in my view an error, but I do not think this team would, I think the team think of the birds first, a reason why, hubby and I joined to help.

    Good luck

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    Hello Everyone,

    i am new here and have just applied to foster a bird. I did get an email acknowledging my application. And now I wait.......

    How it takes me back - we adopted our lovely daughter 10 years ago and if you think this process is slow, you should try adopting a child! One thing we learned to be good at was waiting! It took us nearly two years, but the hard work to get the right match was worth it.

    If the long wait means you end up with the right match then the bird benefits - and so do you!

    Having said that, like everyone else, I am impatient, especially having spent months reading books and going on visits doing my research to make sure we are going to be a good home and finding out which kind of bird we would be suitable for.

    I think fostering for Bl is a great idea as you get the visits and advice online and over the phone.

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    Welcome Hansmic and good luck with the foster application. We have a lot of people on here who foster children, short or long term. I'm guessing there are a lot of similar principles for toddler training and parrot handling!
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    Hi and welcome to BL.

    Why not introduce yourself in our introductions section? Have you any birds at the moment or do you have any previous bird experience? Also, I know that I won't be the last to ask if you've considered safehousing, it can be a good way of opening your home to a feathered friend more quickly and you could provide a very valuable service to the charity. Might be worth thinking about it. It can also serve to give you experience of different species whilst you wait for your rehoming application to progress.
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    Hi and welcome to birdline.  I was going to say the same as Helen re safehousing! It is def a quicker way to get involved and a great way to meet different species too. Good luck with your application though.
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    Sent a request to foster ages ago but not heard anything, keep hoping :0
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    Posted By Lynn on 06-04-2013 04:17 PM
    Sent a request to foster ages ago but not heard anything, keep hoping :0

    Hi

    I can confirm that your application has been received. Someone did try and contact you but you were engaged. They will call again - there are however there are quite a few applications for the bird you have applied for so it may take a while.

    Thanks Debs

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    Thank you Debs

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    This person should not have a bird.
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    Posted By Suesi on 01-06-2013 01:03 PM
    This person should not have a bird.


    I am sorry but I have no idea who or what you are talking about. If you have issues with anything or anyone posting here please private message me as this forum is not the place for arguements or vendettas.

     

    Thank you

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    Debs

    Sorry I wasn't trying to start any vendetta, my response was to someone (I won't mention) whoIMO seemed to be trying to get a bird " on the cheap".

     

    I really do apologise as I have been in bits after the death of my M2 after him being with us for over 30 years.

    I filled in the forms originally to be a safehouse as I realise I am not ready to foster at this stage but probably not even ready for this at this time.

     

    I did try to PM you but it said I am not authorised. I apologise for any offence.

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    It's because you are a registered user that you are not able to PM people Suesi.

    Don't worry about it. Communication via the web is fraught with difficulties, if you don't know the context or the people. You must be devastated to have lost such a special bird, Moluccans are something else, especially after you have had one as a companion for so long.

    Offering help as a safehouse may well be a way to help yourself by helping others, but you need to be ready to do it, and to be ready to let the bird go if the situation requires it.
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    Suesi

    I have sent you a PM which hopefully you can pick up :-)

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    Hi... after reading all thats been said I wonder if I can say something, like Euan I also have only been with Birdline for a cpl of months and hope that because thats a short time it wont be put against me for Fostering or being a Safehouse, I dont think Euan was under any illusions that he would be getting a phone call a week after he joined asking him how manyy birds he wanted, I think he was more frustrated that the days were going by and he hadnt heard anything, come on now admit it and even members reading this who have been chosen to foster you too were frustrated waiting on the news, its common sense we all get like that with anything we hope to get, I think Euan knows himself the situation, I applied to foster and must say I was surprised not to have at least receive an email informing me the bird had now been fostered and that I wasnt successful this time and to please try again.....
    Im looking to be a safehouse for any birds that need this position until they are fostered but I also want to foster an African Grey Parrot but I dont just want it for myself I want it for a companion for my own African Grey called Tommy, I never had 1 dog I had 2, I never had 1 cat I had 2, I never had 1 budgie I had 2 and my reason was always that no matter what animal or bird I owned I always believed it was better that they had a companion, humans live better with a companion ... ( ok perhaps not all humans lol ) .... animals and birds dont live on their own in the wild so I think its better they dont in captivity, I will wait and hope I am successful in my application to foster asap failing which I will buy another African Grey for Tommy and myself which Im sure will show me the love Tommy shows me for the love I show Tommy ......
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    As I understand it, you should have received an email to say you were unsuccessful, just as you should get an acknowledgement of your application, automatically. A lot of people do not read that they need to allow the noreply email address, so that the reply doesn't get filtered out by the spam filter on their email, and find the messages there.

    Nobody will judge you for applying, having only recently joined, that is the reason many people join. They've either seen a bird they want to apply for, or they've decided they'd rather rescue than buy a bird from a breeder. As others have said above Knight-Moderator, maybe becoming a safehouse is an alternative. It will get you known to your local ACO, as you'd need to have a homecheck, and as you are in control of the kind of birds you'd be willing to take, could maybe specialise in CAG's to provide that companionship to Tommy.
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    Hello..... can I ask who it is that makes the decision who the successful applicant is when there is a number of applications for fostering one of the birds for rehoming ? 

    Thank you...

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    Hi SharonH...

    Ive already had a home check and assume all was and still is well, I have said before that I would like to be a safehouse for any birds that need my help....

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    Duncan,

    I have sent you a PM
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    Duncan there seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding here I think??

    I don't believe the bird you have applied for has been rehomed as yet which will explain why you have not received an email. Hopefully Nina has sorted it all out with you.

    Just to clarify for the benefit of others. You get an email notification when you apply - just to acknowledge receipt of the application. Then you will get a phone call from the rehoming team. If you are the best and most suitable home for the bird you will be asked to undergo a homecheck. If you pass the HC then you will get a call advising you that you are successful. If you are not the successful applicant then you will be notified (usually by email) that you were unsuccessful and invite you to revisit the rehoming list :-)
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    Debs, your explanation of the process is really clear. Unless I missed it, I don't think it's stated so clearly anywhere on the main site. Maybe something just like that could be posted in the rehoming FAQ section for people who don't use forums. Could potentially avoid a lot of confusion. It's just helped me get a better understanding of where I am in the process.
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    Hi Debs,

    thank you for explaining things in more detail, I`m pleased to say I`ve had my phone call and look forward to further stages, Re Carols suggestion I agree with her that it would perhaps be a good idea to put what you have said on the site where all can read these details which will include members who dont or cant frequent the forums........

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    I made an application at the beginning of the week for ****** and did not receive an automated reply. I am not in a hurry but just want to know if the application was received?

    Julia Watts

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    Hi Julia, a lot of the time spam filters will pick up the reply email as it comes from a "noreply" address. Have you checked that? If it's not there, do give the helpline a call and someone will be able to chase up what's happened.

    Good luck with the foster application. I have taken out the name of the bird you applied for as we don't mention names until the foster process is complete, but fingers crossed for you.
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    Hi everybody, looks like I have fallen into the impatient category. We applied to re home about a month ago and as was promised, we received an email confirming our application so all was good.
    Why oh why didn't we look on the forum for more information rather than hassling already frayed at the edges volunteers, we shall await a reply in a rather sheepish manner because of our impatience.
    I am encouraged by some of the positive comments on here and it seems that some kind of idea of the possible wait might be useful (especially when you live with an excited partner)
    I understand why this is not always possible but any information, no matter how small, can sometimes make for a more peaceful life
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    Andy,

    I know it can seem like an age, but the company of a feathered friend is worth it in the end. Use your excitement to read up on the species, find exciting bird (and human) friendly recipes and look up how to do home-made, bird-friendly toys (I do forage boxes that can suit small or larger birds.) Remember, good things come to those who wait
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    Sound advice Helen, keep up the good work.
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    Hi I have become a member about three months ago and I had a phone call recently to discuss my application but haven't had a home visit yet and was wondering how long it takes
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    Why does it take so long to rehome these birds?

     

    May I suggest some methods to speed things up.

     

    I am so sorry, it has been 3 months for Troy, proberly he is suffering as well, while he is waiting to be rehomed.

     

    Every time, we are talking, you keep saying we are volunteers, even so if you are organised you could speed things up. If you have no time, can ew speak directly to the owners, and arrange time with them. They can visit us and check.  I am so sorry for these birds, waiting that I want to be a volunteer and help them find a new home FOR THE SAKE OF ANIMAL WELFARE.

     

    Thanks!

     

    Robert 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    03-09-2017 7:00 PM

    Yes, we are all volunteers, yes, it does take a very long time. All the birds on the Rehoming List are living with a Safe House family, so are not 'suffering'. It's always good to find a bird a Foster home, but it has to be the right Foster home. This, sadly, does take time. The owners of the bird are not qualified to vet a new home, they don't have the experience or knowledge necessary. It's better to take a long time and get the right permanent home for a bird rather than do things too quickly and make a mistake, which means the bird coming back into the system again. One of the problems is being able to contact all applicants for the bird as it's holiday season, and people aren't always available, so not down to our system or lack of it. 

    It's very frustrating, I know, but patience is the key to anything to do with parrots. Changing the diet, retraining, gaining trust, these things take lots and lots of time. Much better to get it right.

    Doddie

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    06-05-2018 5:41 PM
    Fantastic effort put in as far as I can see.Good job birdline people and keep up the much needed help for our feathered friends.I will wait patiently and hope a chance to give a bird a forever home some time.Thanks people
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