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Last Post 19-02-2015 7:29 PM by  Vicky Ford
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10-01-2015 11:20 AM

    I was wondering where is everybody???

    When I joined a few years ago there was always someone here, questions to be answered, suggestions, and just general bird chit chat. It seems such a shame no-one seems to be bothering with this website anymore. I get that FB has over run the world but come on guys for those of us that WILL NOT sign up to it cant we get this one going again.

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    10-01-2015 1:58 PM
    Deb I am with you I don't have a Facebook account. It is frustrating but to an extent Facebook is where people want to be. I am still very much hoping that the directors will agree to spend some money on the web site soon, and part of that will involve making it and the forums more user friendly on mobile devices.
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    10-01-2015 6:40 PM
    Hi Both,

    I'm still here too.I refuse to use FB but still look in here every day (BL is my home page.) It really is a shame it's so quiet.
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    10-01-2015 8:27 PM
    I look every day, too. I'm not a fan of FB, although I do keep an eye (courtesy of my daughter's page) but I fail to see the fascination of looking at somebody's dinner, or their family pics, however lovely. But then I am a miserable git, that's well-known... This Forum used to be a place where someone could post a question, and people would come back with answers, it was friendly, informative and fun.

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    11-01-2015 9:23 AM
    I agree with all before. It is very sad that there are so few contributions on the BL forum. I look at FB but do not contribute to it. I wonder if there is a way to copy the FB messages from BL members automatically to BL forums. One reason for having the BL forum used more is that it is more likely to reach people looking for Parrot rescue groups as I did some years ago. If I were to look at the forum now I would not be encouraged to join. Facebook seems to be amazing for those already committed. Is it popular because it is apparently easier to include photos?
    Both have their uses I'm sure but it is very disappointing to have so little on the Birdline site.
    Thank you to those who try to keep things going.
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    11-01-2015 10:42 AM
    Jenn/All there is work going on to make the web site more easily accessible for mobile devices, and this includes the forums. It will also include investigating links to the Facebook page, but that comes with its own issues/problems (it WILL still be looked into).
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    12-01-2015 1:21 PM

    I have been with Birdline for over 8 years and in all that time I feel the worst thing that has ever happened is the birdline facebook account.  I refuse to get involved with ANY facebook account even the works one as I think they are totally open to abuse by some people who want to cause trouble, and I am saying this in general not indicating just the Birdline one.  Whilst I have not and will not visit any facebook pages I am aware of some abuse even here which doesn't bode good.  Whilst a few get pleasure out of facebook I feel the founder of these sites has made a fortune out of others unhappiness - blood money if you will - when you hear about all the cyber bullying, radicalisation etc.  More to the point it has in my mind destroyed the Birdline website.  I used to look at this site at least every other day,  now it is ever other week if that as I am so saddened by the deteriration in it and question whether or not it is worth looking at it any longer other than to check if certain birds are on the rehoming list.

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    12-01-2015 7:46 PM
    Maureen the directors are going to spend some money on the site, but of course we must be realistic in how much that will work in getting people to return.

    There are some fixes for a few things not quite working as they should
    A major revamp of the forums to include making them more user friendly on mobile devices
    A general freshen up of the appearance of the site
    Again an acceptance that as far as possible the site is made very user friendly on mobile devices

    There will not be anything major, using the old saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Marc did a fantastic job creating a site which is attractive but low maintenance, it's just time for a slightly different look. This may or may not make a difference, but we have to give it a try.

    In the meantime the actual number of hits the site gets remains much the same, as everyone knows, it's the forums which have suffered the most. I don't get despondent about that, all we can do is make the site as attractive as possible to those who use Facebook, and hope they move back to at least using both.

    Onwards and upwards 😀😀😀
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    13-01-2015 9:09 AM
    Chris,
    Do the proposed changed include making it simpler to upload photos to the forums as I believe that, and the mobile device prob, are the 2 major issues. Whilst an update to the look of the site is nice, I don't think it is of a high priority as the photo thing!
    Having said that, I still check in daily when I am at home and not just on my mobile!
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    13-01-2015 6:01 PM
    Yep people have expressed the issue of photos on the forums before. The bottom line with the photo issue is that this comes at a cost, it's amazing how quicky these build up the amount of data we are holding, and if the photos are held on our site, it comes at a cost. So enable photos on our forum, and have less money for other things, or don't allow photos. The six million dollar question (no pun intended!!)

    That's not to say loading photos won't be allowed with the new forums. Just a decision we need to take with our eyes open regarding the monetary cost.
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    31-01-2015 8:10 PM

    Hi all

    I'm new to bird line do you have to be a full member to ask for help advice as me and my wife have just got a ring neck after years of having budgies

    and need so advice and seems a shame if that's correct as I have nowhere else to go this was recommended by our bird vet

    thanks David
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    31-01-2015 9:36 PM
    Hi David,

    Welcome to the forum. You'll find it's quite quirt here as people seem to have moved to Facebook but there are a number of us still around.

    Advice is given for free, you don't have to be a member. We're all volunteers here with one common goal - the health and welfare of birds. If you have any general or specific questions about your feathered ones, just ask and someone will do their best to help.

    Whereabouts are you? It's nice that vets are recommending folk to BL for help with their birds.
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    01-02-2015 7:39 PM
    Hello all

    I'm here! I'm a new BL member, waiting for my fostering homecheck (I so hope I have a chance of getting the lovely birds I applied for) and I think I've read the entire forum in the last week or so, soaking up all the great advice and experience. Forums are much better for that than FB, I find, and just more user friendly.

    Anyway *waves to everyone*
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    01-02-2015 8:09 PM
    Hi Kirsty and welcome from me and 'the boys' (we're not sure if Joey's actually a girl!)

    You're right about the forum - it serves as a long term archive of all the useful comments and advice. All the very best for your fostering application.
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    01-02-2015 8:57 PM
    Thanks Helen! The 'boys' look wonderful
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    02-02-2015 2:09 PM
    I use Facebook fairly regularly and I have to say that I don't see the Official Birdline page or the other more informal FB group that a lot of BL people use being particularly busy. They certainly don't have the kind of content and organisation that you can get from a forum like this. One very small and no-cost change that would ease access here would be to let people elect to stay signed in to the site. Every time I think of coming here there's that small barrier of having to sign in first. It seems insignificant, but with most other sites I use I don't have that hurdle. This includes FB. It would make it much easier to do a quick check for posts.

    I was also thinking of the photo issue. Is there some way to house these off-site and just have links to them on here? Not as a two step process on the user's end (too much trouble) but something built in. There's so much free storage out there. Or, alternatively, could £1 be added to the membership fee that would be earmarked for building up the forum or buying more space to allow photos to be stored on here? I don't think diverting some money to this place is frivolous. The support and advice here is as important as a lot of the other more 'hands on' work Birdline does.
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    02-02-2015 6:34 PM

    Hi


    thanks Helen for the welcome I live in Sussex like some others on here im in favour of the good old forum as I do not use fb or others the vet's that we use is seers croft in west Sussex they're great

    im trying to get our ring neck use to us as he is very jumpy shame I cannot up load photos he comes out of his cage we feed him Harrison's plus he love's his 5 a day fruit and veg fresh I just wish we could handle him as he bite's me and I do not want to make him scared of me we've had him 5 weeks and came from a breeder who I was not impressed with not happy children freighted the birds all time with sticks
    and other items should not be aloud not sure whether to use glove's or cover him with a towel do put my hand in to change food water food plus I leave it in there for a while

    I can touch and rub his belly from the outside the cage if the cover is on

    sorry this so long I just wish you could see photos of him that we have taken so far
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    02-02-2015 6:53 PM
    I'm here on and off :-)

    and I'm off now - to do a rehoming list update ;-)
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    02-02-2015 7:02 PM
    David, please don't use gloves. Most birds are scared witless of gloves. Towelling is only the last available option. Routine is the key to most problems - just like babies, birds feel more secure when they know what's going to happen, when, and how. Pick the times that suit you, then stick to them. A little while here and there doesn't matter, but in general, stick to your own routine. The bird will relax more. Wake him at the same time each day. Birds (in a perfect world) should have a 12-hour day. If he wakes at 9am, he should be in bed by 9pm. Feed, water and clean at more or less the same time each day. Sounds very boring, but it works. Remember that your bird may dislike men. If that's so, you won't change it. Get used to it. He sounds like he's not hand-reared - perhaps he's not comfortable with people, but would prefer other birds. If so, you need an aviary, although he can't go out until the warmer weather. Use body language. Look at him out of the side of your eye, grin a lot. You'll feel silly, but it will make him see you are not a threat. When a bird is relaxed, the eye isn't round (scared!) it's oval, with corners. When you grin, your eye will look 'friendly '. Feed him treats from between the bars. Talk gently, grin a lot. Whatever you do, grin a lot. It works.
    Good luck,
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    02-02-2015 7:23 PM
    Hi David,

    Doddie is a mine of information and based in your part of the country! What she says is right, take things slowly, establish routine and don't become dsiheartened. We had Charlie for years before he would trust us and even now that's on his terms. To get him used to use being near him but not threatenng I used to read Winnie the Pooh stories to him. It sounds crazy but hearing your voice, talking gently and calmly (even if it,s the newspaperyou're reading, talk softly and calmly and spend time with him. You're much more likely to earn his trust taking things slowly. Five weeks for a bird is a very short length of time. Try to enjoy his company without pushing him too quickly. As you've said, previously people next to his cage have scared him with sticks. He needs to learn that he can trust you.
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    18-02-2015 3:38 PM
    I have just come back on the forums as I have been unwell for a while and it is good to see some familiar names are still here but it is a shame it's not as active as it used to be. Although I go on Facebook to keep up with family who live away I am not a great user of it To be honest I don't know how it works most of the time! The BL forums have been brilliant over the years I have learned so much far more I think than any textbook as you learn from other peoples experience.
    David persevere with your bird. Unfortuneatly I had to give my foster birds back last year when I became ill but Harley (Hahns Macaw) in particular was my little star. He hated me and I mean really hated me when he came! He would try to pluck my eyes out type hated me!!! He would attack me at every given opportunity cleaning the cage was a nightmare. But..... I kept at it and after two years he turned into my baby who I could do almost anything with. It was the greatest feeling when he finally trusted me so you can imagine how I felt when he had to go back to BL. I still have Cleo the U2 who has been so good while I have not been so well just happy to cuddle up in a blanket with me!! So keep going don't give up yet. These forums were so helpful when I needed help so let's hope they grow in strength again as new people join.
    Birds are like chocolates you cann't stop at just one!
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    18-02-2015 3:42 PM
    I have just come back on the forums as I have been unwell for a while and it is good to see some familiar names are still here but it is a shame it's not as active as it used to be. Although I go on Facebook to keep up with family who live away I am not a great user of it To be honest I don't know how it works most of the time! The BL forums have been brilliant over the years I have learned so much far more I think than any textbook as you learn from other peoples experience.
    David persevere with your bird. Unfortuneatly I had to give my foster birds back last year when I became ill but Harley (Hahns Macaw) in particular was my little star. He hated me and I mean really hated me when he came! He would try to pluck my eyes out type hated me!!! He would attack me at every given opportunity cleaning the cage was a nightmare. But..... I kept at it and after two years he turned into my baby who I could do almost anything with. It was the greatest feeling when he finally trusted me so you can imagine how I felt when he had to go back to BL. I still have Cleo the U2 who has been so good while I have not been so well just happy to cuddle up in a blanket with me!! So keep going don't give up yet. These forums were so helpful when I needed help so let's hope they grow in strength again as new people join.
    Birds are like chocolates you cann't stop at just one!
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    19-02-2015 10:27 AM

    Glad you've still got the U2.  Dixie doesn't cuddle but he is lovely; sits by me, plays a special game and rings his bell with gusto!

    I phoned and sent a PM reply to yours.  Hope you have the latter. 

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    19-02-2015 7:29 PM
    Jenn I will ring you Saturday hopefully had visitors this week. Hope you are feeling ok.
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