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Last Post 18-07-2013 2:36 AM by  reclaimingrebus
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24-06-2013 8:01 AM
    For my first parrot, I  would like some advice from members, please, about the best cage to get.  As I do not know who he/she will be, I need the best all-rounder, I suppose.  I have looked at soooo many, not an easy decision.  The one I like for its size, and it can be one large or two smaller cages depending on what comes! comments?

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    24-06-2013 9:15 AM
    Hi there

    In all honesty my advice would be to wait and see what the bird is...if you safehouse or foster sometimes the bird comes with a perfectly good cage and often changing it's cage unecessarily can cause them distress.

    There is a big difference between a suitable cage for an Ammie and one for a ringneck (for example). It's all well and good thinking that the larger it is the better it is and that it will suit all birds. However the larger the cage the larger the bar spacing and that isn't suited to many smaller birds as they can get their heads stuck or escape...etc... also you may get a bird that only ever comes out the top of the cage 'door phobia'...LOL so that means a top opening cage is needed. If it is top opening then it probably wont have a play stand on top and may birds like that and will spend all day on a play top...too many things to second guess when buying a cage in advance

    Hope this helps
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    24-06-2013 9:55 AM
    Thank you so much, Debs. Yes, that does help, just shows it pays to ask advice. I thought I had to have a good cage etc. to pass a home-check to see if I am suitable to safehouse or foster. I will wait and see what happens and be prepared to decide on a cage to suit him/her if necessary. - Heather
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    24-06-2013 3:34 PM
    Hi heather I,d agree with everything debs said- you might also want to think about things like how easy it is to move the cage about so you can take it out the garden for the bird to get some sun, so will it go through doors, up and down steps etc. How good is the build quality? The cheap cage I bought for thomas is fine and he loves it, but a determined bird would probably wreck it over time.decisions, decisions,decisions!
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    24-06-2013 4:57 PM
    I agree too. It's best to see which bird you are likely to foster before planning on a cage. Some come with their cages and would be very stressed by a change of cage. Others may need low perches. wider rather than tall cages or may need specific bar spacing. Also, even with SHing, if you don't have a cage and the bird doesn't have one, your ACO should help you get one. So, it's best to wait and see what you actually need, rather than buying something that may not be suitable. I will say that there's no substitute for quality too. It's worth saving your pennies and spending them on the best that you can afford.

    Do you have your SH check arranged yet?
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    25-06-2013 3:40 AM
    Thanks to everyone for the advice, which I certainly intend to follow and wait.
    No, Helen, I have not arranged a check yet. I am in a quandary about whether to be a safehouse. I have no experience to assess/evaluate a bird, and I live alone without pets so wonder if I could really judge the character and how he/she would relate to "normal" households! All I have done so far is join Birdline, read loads, thought about it a lot and prepared a room as a bedroom and cleared out hazards in my house.
    I think I need to decide whether to be a safehouse or foster - I am hoping my local ACO or an experienced breeder will be prepared to discuss this with me when they have time. I do lack confidence especially now I have read so many posts and realised how much there is to learn. Thanks for your interest - Heather
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    25-06-2013 12:59 PM
    Dear Heather,

    Don't worry. Even with limited experience you can offer so much to a bird in need. And you will always have your local ACO, the forum or the helpline for support. I had only had experience with a tiel before I took on Charlie as a safehouse and I haven't looked back since. People are really supportive and being a single lady household might be the perfect environment for specific bird(s) that will only tolerate female companionship. Don't despair, help is always at hand. Contact your local ACO, have a chat and see what you think would suit you best.

    One thing id for sure, you're definitely willing to learn.
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    25-06-2013 2:46 PM
    Hi heather your situation is not unlike mine, although I have some parrot experience and 3 dogs. Both my safe houses needed a single gender household, so there will be birds out there who would benefit from the setup you can offer.As to Evaluations, I'm new to doing bird assessments too, and I just say what I see. I'm sure that you'll soon get the hang of it !
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    25-06-2013 2:52 PM
    OK, thanks, I'm sure I can cope with this and be of some use. Everyone is really helpful. I have nearly finished preparations - next step is home check but so far I have only found the application to foster, so I'm not sure how to apply to be a safehouse! All will become clear soon, I'm still finding out how things work. Thanks for your support - Heather
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    25-06-2013 3:00 PM
    If you are interested in safehousing, all you need to do is contact your Local ACO (listed under member contacts). A safehouse check (and a chat) is free and doesn't necessarily commit you but will allow you to ask whatever questions you may have and maybe meet a birdy or two (many ACOs will take along one of their more friendly birds to meet potential safehouses.) There's no rush about anything though. You have to be ready to do this in your own mind. I promise you though, once you've had feathered companionship, you'll be hooked.
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    25-06-2013 4:43 PM
    One thing I did Heather before I became a safe house was write down as many questions I could possibly think of however trivial!!
    Ask, ask and ask away Its better to have asked than not know!!
    All the best and what ever you decide good luck and like Helen says yes you will be hooked
    It will be the saying no I cant take any more!! that will be the difficult part
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    26-06-2013 7:03 AM
    Thanks to everyone here who has been kind enough to encourage me. I have decided to be a safehouse and my ACO Leighton has done a home check today. I am so excited I may have a bird soon! Leighton and Tara were fantastic and gave me confidence. And the interest shown by you all is so supportive. - Heather
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    26-06-2013 2:20 PM
    Good luck heather ,hoping to hear more good news soon:-)
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    27-06-2013 6:42 AM
    I had the pleasure of meeting Leighton and Tara at Malvern, very nice people. Well done for volunteering. So many birdies out there needing a Safe House. Good luck!
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    14-07-2013 1:12 PM
    Hi Heather...I'm in a similar position to yourself..I do have many years of experience with birds..and I've not long lost my LSC..who was a rescue, but not thru Birdline..I have a little flock of cockatiels..all hand reared and silly tame...and who rule my little chihuahua's with a rod of iron..!!! LOL..however, I had to think long and hard about Safe housing for BL...because there is just nothing to touch the joy of gaining a birds love and trust...and there is no more awful pain, than when you lose them, for whatever reason. But after a great deal of thought, and discussion with my partner...I applied to Safe house..and was accepted..and now very shortly, will be recieving a new bird into our home, and our hearts. Don't be scared of the challenge Heather...or have doubts..because none of us are born with knowledge of these things are we? We all are on a steep learning curve thru out our entire lives. It says such alot about a person that is willing to open their hearts and their homes...because those qualities CAN'T be learnt, you've either got them, or you haven't....!! and everything else can be picked up and learnt along the way. You sound such a caring gentle person..don't be plagued with self doubts...you can do it, and I have every confidence that you will do it, and be so gladly accepted into this wonderful charity that does all this exceptional work on behalf of the birds. Take your courage in both hands, and just go for it Heather...and I bet in 6 months time, you'll be looking back, and saying 'Why the Heck didn't I do this years ago...!!!' LOL May I wish you the very best of luck..you will be such an asset to Birdline.
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    16-07-2013 1:21 PM

    Such kind and encouraging words, Sandie.  And how right you are - once I met the ACO Leighton and his wife Tara, I confidently made the decision to become a safehouse.  Wow! Things happened very quickly after that - mainly  because they were so inundated with work and trusted me to help.

    I now have two lovely birds safehousing them until they find their permanent home.  And a short term emergency bird rescue! I love it, and am learning very quickly.  I am so lucky being retired and living on my own I can devote space, time and care to these birds who repay so much.

    Everyone at Birdline has been fantastic - I just wish more people understood the concept! Thank you again Sandie - more news soon - Heather

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    16-07-2013 3:18 PM
    Heather,

    It's lovely to have your update. I am so happy that you are having a wonderful experience of safehousing. I knew you were going to be a natural
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    18-07-2013 2:36 AM
    I'm really pleased for you Heather and for the birds as well :-)
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